bardist-ass
10th April 2006, 01:51 PM
Nifty little track i was shown ..... though id share ..... Guessing the techniques can be transferred over to other compressors with Channel against channel compression on it.......
best uesd for controlling drums and the same theory can be done with kicks against basslines
The Principle idea is to compressor Channel A against the Channel B, so that ill duck out in the mix when comes in B comes in and then go back in volume, when channel B stops sounding......
its done by using 2 separating to stereo tracks, compressing the left side and right sides separately and then remerging them as a stereo track
(i could be wrong but i think this is called side chain compression?!?!)
As follows:
I made a simple drum beat with a back break channel, a kick channel and then a back break channel.....
and i made 2 group channels ....called L Drums and R Drums (for obvious reasons)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/547/sequence0ec.jpg
Then load either a C1 comp-gate or C1 comp-sc onto each of the group channels (make sure you use the same compressor in both chanels
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5976/compressors5ap.jpg
The key thing about setting this up is that you will notice ive change the key mode on each compressor (circled in red). The L Drums channel is set so that what ever comes in the right hand side of that channel, will compress what whats coming in on the Left hand side of the L Drums channel ..... and vise versa in the R Drums channel .......
Next is to route it all together ..... In this case i want my back break to be compressed again the kick and the snare ..... so you set up the back break channel as follows....
Do whatever effecting you need to do but once this is done , change the side chain mode to Routing (circeld green).
Root one channel going to L Drums and the other to R Drums .....
Hard pan both of then to the corresponding sides and then click the premix buttons on, on both channels (circled red) and send and equal amount to both sides and then turn down main volume slider all the way.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2092/channel10ij.jpg
Then set up the kick snare in the same fashion , but this time , hard pan them opposite dirrections (circled red) , dont prefade them and leave the main volume slider...
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5961/channel27jn.jpg
If youve done this correctly you should now get the back break compressing against the kick and snare .....
In addition, If you now click the prefade buttons on , on the Kick and snare channels and turn the main volume down , you can solo out the back break to hear exaclty how its being compressed and make the relevant changes to the compressors ..... Make sure you change both of them though. Also as you slide back in the snare and kicks , its much easier to get a balance on them and the back break .....
If create one last stereo group channel and then send the L Drums and R Drums to it, it just makes it easier to manage the output as one stereo channel.
Ill admit, its hard to nail down first but if you get the right setting on the compressors and mix it can sound lovely .....
If you can get your head round this .... you can set up further L & R channels to compress the bass against the kicks...
Happy compressing people [:)]
best uesd for controlling drums and the same theory can be done with kicks against basslines
The Principle idea is to compressor Channel A against the Channel B, so that ill duck out in the mix when comes in B comes in and then go back in volume, when channel B stops sounding......
its done by using 2 separating to stereo tracks, compressing the left side and right sides separately and then remerging them as a stereo track
(i could be wrong but i think this is called side chain compression?!?!)
As follows:
I made a simple drum beat with a back break channel, a kick channel and then a back break channel.....
and i made 2 group channels ....called L Drums and R Drums (for obvious reasons)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/547/sequence0ec.jpg
Then load either a C1 comp-gate or C1 comp-sc onto each of the group channels (make sure you use the same compressor in both chanels
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5976/compressors5ap.jpg
The key thing about setting this up is that you will notice ive change the key mode on each compressor (circled in red). The L Drums channel is set so that what ever comes in the right hand side of that channel, will compress what whats coming in on the Left hand side of the L Drums channel ..... and vise versa in the R Drums channel .......
Next is to route it all together ..... In this case i want my back break to be compressed again the kick and the snare ..... so you set up the back break channel as follows....
Do whatever effecting you need to do but once this is done , change the side chain mode to Routing (circeld green).
Root one channel going to L Drums and the other to R Drums .....
Hard pan both of then to the corresponding sides and then click the premix buttons on, on both channels (circled red) and send and equal amount to both sides and then turn down main volume slider all the way.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2092/channel10ij.jpg
Then set up the kick snare in the same fashion , but this time , hard pan them opposite dirrections (circled red) , dont prefade them and leave the main volume slider...
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5961/channel27jn.jpg
If youve done this correctly you should now get the back break compressing against the kick and snare .....
In addition, If you now click the prefade buttons on , on the Kick and snare channels and turn the main volume down , you can solo out the back break to hear exaclty how its being compressed and make the relevant changes to the compressors ..... Make sure you change both of them though. Also as you slide back in the snare and kicks , its much easier to get a balance on them and the back break .....
If create one last stereo group channel and then send the L Drums and R Drums to it, it just makes it easier to manage the output as one stereo channel.
Ill admit, its hard to nail down first but if you get the right setting on the compressors and mix it can sound lovely .....
If you can get your head round this .... you can set up further L & R channels to compress the bass against the kicks...
Happy compressing people [:)]