@ promoters: Dates for Jan/Feb

[franashton10]

Ello everybody

Could all promoters that use this forum please post their dates, (provisional or confimed), for January and Febuary 07? I'm thinkin of trying to start up another DNB night around then in Oxford but obv it's mutually benefical for nights not to clash.
Will be much appreciated
Cheers

Franashton10

:mullet:

[Emersion]

:lookaroun


here we go

[Caution]

I think someone tried this a while ago mate but not all parties were as forthcoming with the information as they could have been.

Good luck.

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

Well Kinetic is first Saturday

Source is when they want :badteeth:

HQ doesn't matter :badteeth:

Hit n Run is forthnighly wednesdays

Book Caution & I for a ram jam club though

[Jibba]

Aaahh, the joys of another night for every other night to clash with...

Oh by the way 'OX4' is the third Saturday of every month.

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

everyone has to start somewhere

like OX4

[Caution]

The next Bar Baby Love Baby Bar thing is Fri 16th Feb I think

[Emersion]

Ox4 Is Buff

[Jibba]

everyone has to start somewhere

like OX4

I know. Kinetic started from humble beginings too.

I just thought i'd point out what everyone else on here knows aleady; that Oxford is saturated with D&B nights and for them to not clash is difficult. Its a big scene though so most of the well promoted nights can do well and at least break even.

[Mantmast]

Far too many d&b nights in Oxford already - the market is completely over-saturtated

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

yet there is not 1 single large scale dnb night really either

Source, Kinetic & Hit n Run I'd say are the largest but still there is a lot of room for all nights to step up quite a bit I think in many aspects

If you come with something special, you could do very well imo

[Emersion]

i think its fine as it is, good selection of nights for different tastes, anymore and that night will run the risk of losing money

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

:lookaroun


here we go

good call btw

this thread will be BIG :neenernee

[Jibba]

yet there is not 1 single large scale dnb night really either

Source, Kinetic & Hit n Run I'd say are the largest but still there is a lot of room for all nights to step up quite a bit I think in many aspects

If you come with something special, you could do very well imo

The day of the large event is over mayn!

You can only pull them off on really special occasions ie Christmas or NYE or base them in the biggest UK cities such as London and Bristol.

Oxford may be a city but its still only town size remember.

Anything on a larger scale than Source at Brookes or one of the bigger Kinetic's would flop IMO.

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

i think its fine as it is, good selection of nights for different tastes, anymore and that night will run the risk of losing money

you say that yet I think a lot of nights just think everything will be OK

someone could in theory come in with the right promotion, contacts & general structure easily go to the top of the Oxford scene I reckon

That's why maybe on this fact, all promoters should be aware & put 110% in at all times which I'm sure some do already

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

The day of the large event is over mayn!

You can only pull them off on really special occasions ie Christmas or NYE or base them in the biggest UK cities such as London and Bristol.

Oxford may be a city but its still only town size remember.

Anything on a larger scale than Source at Brookes or one of the bigger Kinetic's would flop IMO.

I don't agree

Park End is huge

What if they said to a promoter like Ravelogy for example they can take over on a Saturday night?

3 rooms of big line ups & it'd ram

[madz]

too many nights in oxford blah blah

If you want to try and do a night, go for it, you are up against a lot of competition but it doesnt mean that if you promote it in the right way you wont make other promoters have to step up a gear. Which can only be a good thing.

And Jibba everyone was saying there was no rrom for any more nights way before OX4

[DJ Chemical]

HQ Dates Jan / Feb :

Jan 19th

Feb 23rd

:respekt:

[Emersion]

well thats what the arguement is, whether they are succesful or not is one issue, whether they affect peeps through the door at excisting nights is another

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

too many nights in oxford blah blah

If you want to try and do a night, go for it, you are up against a lot of competition but it doesnt mean that if you promote it in the right way you wont make other promoters have to step up a gear. Which can only be a good thing.

And Jibba everyone was saying there was no rrom for any more nights way before OX4

I agree with you :monkey:

[madz]

well thats what the arguement is, whether they are succesful or not is one issue, whether they affect peeps through the door at excisting nights is another

I dont think success is soley based on how many other nights are running, maybe a part but not all

[Emersion]

well lets hope that park end throw a fortnightly chav dnb night and put kinetic out of business, that'll be great

[madz]

well lets hope that park end throw a fortnightly chav dnb night and put kinetic out of business, that'll be great

oh shut up Jamie

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

well lets hope that park end throw a fortnightly chav dnb night and put kinetic out of business, that'll be great

hand bags :badteeth:

could happen so Kinetic should keep an eye out of course

my views in this thread are not from a biased angle at all either

i'm saying my views from what i see generally going on

[Emersion]

hand bags :badteeth:



:badteeth:

[Jibba]

too many nights in oxford blah blah

If you want to try and do a night, go for it, you are up against a lot of competition but it doesnt mean that if you promote it in the right way you wont make other promoters have to step up a gear. Which can only be a good thing.

I never said there was too many nights in Oxford already. I said that with one more night, there will be more clashes. Its inevitable. I'm not one to complain about an extra D&B night, that would be plain stupid coz I try to reach as many as I can just purely for the fact that I love D&B.

But i'm afriad to say there just aren't enough days in the month. If a night can be pulled off, without treading on peoples toes then i'm all for it. But with Oxford being as small as it is, I just can't see that happening.

And Jibba everyone was saying there was no rrom for any more nights way before OX4

Yeah I was one of those people. Refer to my first point.

[madz]

If a night can be pulled off, without treading on peoples toes then i'm all for it.

.

why shouldnt nights clash? Love bar and HQ ran simultaneously recently, offered different line ups and both were successful

Hate to have a capitalist attitude but survival of the fittest

[Jibba]

why shouldnt nights clash? Love bar and HQ ran simultaneously recently, offered different line ups and both were successful

Hate to have a capitalist attitude but survival of the fittest

You're reinforcing my point Madz.

They both ran and were succesfull. OX4 and Shockin Vybes were both run on the night after and (as far as I'm aware) were both succesfull too.

Now imagine another night is thrown into the mix on that same weekend?

[Emersion]

exactly

anyway, its all about supporting your local night, not a night thrown by people just in it to make money due to the large market

[madz]

A new promoter would be rather stupid to put on a dnb night at the same time as two others.

BUT even if they did and they were successful and one of the other nights werent should they feel bad about it?

Anyway i'll shut up now

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

exactly

anyway, its all about supporting your local night, not a night thrown by people just in it to make money due to the large market

well a local person could do one & although a certain amount of a night is built up of "mates", you can't survive on that principal & have to market towards teh general public surely?

[KINETIC D&B]

yet there is not 1 single large scale dnb night really either

Source, Kinetic & Hit n Run I'd say are the largest but still there is a lot of room for all nights to step up quite a bit I think in many aspects

If you come with something special, you could do very well imo


MIKEE! stop digging your own personal little hole. set blagger!:neenernee

[madz]

exactly

anyway, its all about supporting your local night, not a night thrown by people just in it to make money due to the large market

LOL such propaganda, wonder who you heard that from

There is no money in dnb. Those in it for this reason will realise that and do rnb nights.

And tbh if it means there are more people getting to listen to dnb who cares. Not about the promoters its about the people that go out to listen to it.

[Emersion]

well a local person could do one & although a certain amount of a night is built up of "mates", you can't survive on that principal & have to market towards teh general public surely?

thats not what i said whatsoever mate

[Jibba]

Anyway i'll shut up now

Thanks :D

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

MIKEE! stop digging your own personal little hole. set blagger!:neenernee

you what?

i have not dug myself a hole

this could be a small night or potentially a large night

nobody knows so just saying promoters should be aware :fryingpan

[Emersion]

LOL such propaganda, wonder who you heard that from

There is no money in dnb. Those in it for this reason will realise that and do rnb nights.

And tbh if it means there are more people getting to listen to dnb who cares. Not about the promoters its about the people that go out to listen to it.
whats your problem exactly? you never used to act this way toward me

[KINETIC D&B]

[QUOTE=MIKEE HUSSLA]hand bags :badteeth:

could happen so Kinetic should keep an eye out of course

my views in this thread are not from a biased angle at all either

i'm saying my views from what i see generally going on[/QUOTE

maybe kinetic are alredy worknig with park end in secrect....

[Emersion]

[QUOTE=MIKEE HUSSLA]hand bags :badteeth:

could happen so Kinetic should keep an eye out of course

my views in this thread are not from a biased angle at all either

i'm saying my views from what i see generally going on[/QUOTE

maybe kinetic are alredy worknig with park end in secrect....

i like the cut of your jib

[madz]

whats your problem exactly? you never used to act this way toward me

:confused:

I only tell people i like to shut up and i diagree with my best mates cos i know they wont take it personally

stop being a sensitive bugger :)

[rogue]

could you give us an idea of what sort of night you're thinking of putting on and we might be able to give you better advice? Things like target audience (heads or students), music policy, budget, venues etc?

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

yeah these ice rink parties are gonna be great

[Jibba]

Not about the promoters its about the people that go out to listen to it.

What if you're both like most promoters are?

DJ's, producers an promoters are the people deciding where the scene goes.

[SugaCube]

You know what, why is everyone so negative all the time, the bloke merely wanted to know what days everyone's nights were on so as not to tread on anyone's toes, give him a break, you're all a bunch of girls

[KINETIC D&B]

like Mikee said - Kinetic runs every 1st sat of each month - there are liberal sprinklings of dnb on other nights though.

odd dates here and there...

[Misdemeanor]

good luck with the night :)

[SugaCube]

good luck with the night :)

he probably won't bother after all this!!

[Mantmast]

You know what, why is everyone so negative all the time, the bloke merely wanted to know what days everyone's nights were on so as not to tread on anyone's toes, give him a break, you're all a bunch of girls

What's wrong with being a girl?

[Emersion]

What's wrong with being a girl?

having a sweaty fanny like jibba pointed out

[rogue]

having a sweaty fanny like jibba
:eek: :eek:

[Emersion]

:eek:

[Smokey]

Thing is the same people get booked month after month in oxford meaning that people who should perhaps be getting booked dont, so the only way to get sets is to start your own night, its something I'm going to be looking into in 2007

[Emersion]

fair comment

[SugaCube]

nothing wrong with being a girl! it is just really stupid when everyone says "there's too many nights" bla bla bla, new nights will be new and exciting for 2007

it just comes across as if you dont want anyone to come along with a night that will be better than yours........and that isn't pointed at anyone in particular, just the general attitude that comes across!

[Mantmast]

I hear ya

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

DENISE IS RUNNING DRUM & BASS NIGHT 2007 SHOCKER! z

[Emersion]

why do u put a z after ur posts mikee?

[SugaCube]

why do u put a z after ur posts mikee?

so he can get capitals

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

if you type in full upper case it will set the case to propper so I stick a z in lower case on the end to keep the upper case business.... :o

[Emersion]

aaaah fair play

[GDStar]

lol

I think more info is needed. But i am generally with the opinion that there are just too many nights as well. Even if nights are on at different times, theyre still likely to have an indirect affect tho, ie. you gonna go to this night on the thursday, no i'm gonna hold out for the night on the saturday, or even the sunday, which will mean i'll miss out on saturday, but then i was gonna go out on tuesday, so maybe i will just go out tonight.... etc etc :rottentom

[franashton10]

Well cheers for all the replies, it's helpful. Didn't expect all of that!



lol

I think more info is needed. But i am generally with the opinion that there are just too many nights as well. Even if nights are on at different times, theyre still likely to have an indirect affect tho, ie. you gonna go to this night on the thursday, no i'm gonna hold out for the night on the saturday, or even the sunday, which will mean i'll miss out on saturday, but then i was gonna go out on tuesday, so maybe i will just go out tonight.... etc etc :rottentom

This is true, but surely that shouldn't mean that other people can try and do the same thing? And then also that would mean the crapper ones would slowly filter out?

Basically I'm sayin that just cos lots of ppl are running nights that doesnt mean others shouldnt do so too...

Clashes looking almost inevitable though... :S

Might do something 2nd weekend Jan,..

[GDStar]

I'm not saying you shouldnt do it, go for it if its something you wanna do... at least you're going about it the right way by communicating with other nights! :)

Just out of curiosity... where were you thinking of putting this night on? Because i think that'll make a big difference. is it 4 local headz/djs, or getting headliners etc?

[franashton10]

I'm not saying you shouldnt do it, go for it if its something you wanna do... at least you're going about it the right way by communicating with other nights! :)

Just out of curiosity... where were you thinking of putting this night on? Because i think that'll make a big difference. is it 4 local headz/djs, or getting headliners etc?



Thinking of doing a mix of both. Prob one big name, and then a few local dj's - Fu or similar. We're looking into a few venues, + currently considering "The Old School".

[Pink Niki]

Jan 19th


harsh, i was gonna do summin for my b-day that night

[Pink Niki]

currently considering "The Old School".

Mate, drum and bass does not work well in that venue.

[Gem04]

having a sweaty fanny like jibba pointed out

Too far Tony

[Pink Niki]

Who's Tony?!

[Emersion]

lol wtf?

[Ben E]

Lol

[Algar]

Let me tell you all something, because its quite simple really.

Don't worry about who else is doing what and where and when etc etc....
People need to worry about their own night and the product that they are going to be giving out to people. If you put on a quality night with a line up that appeals to people, then they will come. This applies to anything that you are trying to sell, anywhere in the world. As someone has already said in this thread (can't remeber who) its survival of the fittest. If you can form a coalition with another promoter then thats all good, if you can't then you can't. Its just a business at the end of the day, and there is no room for friends in business. People just need to be concerned with their own night really.

[Stumasta]

Thing is the same people get booked month after month in oxford meaning that people who should perhaps be getting booked dont, so the only way to get sets is to start your own night, its something I'm going to be looking into in 2007

Sorry mate, but how can you moan about not getting any sets in Oxford?

I hardly ever see you at any nights, why should people book you if you don't go to their nights?

[azonica]

Really can't be bothered reading this thread, its probably only the same things that have been said a million times before

I think Mike has already put our HQ dates


All I am saying is in the last 2 months we've clashed with the thing at the Love Bar and Shockin Vibez, and all the nights have been packed, so who cares.

[Smokey]

Sorry mate, but how can you moan about not getting any sets in Oxford?

I hardly ever see you at any nights, why should people book you if you don't go to their nights?


I'm not moaning, i'm just saying like i see it, people shouldnt get booked on how many of the promoters nights they turn up to, it should be down to ability

[djindecision]

just so you know - im starting a drum and bass night too........

its gonna be fresh

[GDStar]

I'm not moaning, i'm just saying like i see it, people shouldnt get booked on how many of the promoters nights they turn up to, it should be down to ability

Or both? There are pleanty of good dj's in oxford that want sets tho.
You can't just expect a set down to ability, unless of course you have something different or special to offer. So supporting nights has got to be an important factor for most local bookings surely?

[madz]

Many average djs get sets cos they hang out of promoters asses. Its that kind of scene unfortunately.

Edit: I dunno, it is also pretty disillusioning because of how locked the scene appears, which it does

[Stumasta]

I'm not moaning, i'm just saying like i see it, people shouldnt get booked on how many of the promoters nights they turn up to, it should be down to ability

Yeah but the only dj who's got ability that stands out is Fu and he gets more bookings than the rest of us put together and rightly so.

Promoters are always gunna book people they like and people who add value to their night, you can say it should all be on ability but how can you actually judge a dj's ability because imo at least 80% of a dj's skill is tune selection and what tunes people like and what they want to hear at their night is down to their personal taste.

So many DJ's moan about not getting sets but imo it's so simple. The way to get sets is to go to nights and give promoters demos. If you keep persisting with this you will eventually start to get sets.

If you haven't done this then I fail to see why you should feel hard done by.

[Smokey]

Yeah but the only dj who's got ability that stands out is Fu and he gets more bookings than the rest of us put together and rightly so.

Promoters are always gunna book people they like and people who add value to their night, you can say it should all be on ability but how can you actually judge a dj's ability because imo at least 80% of a dj's skill is tune selection and what tunes people like and what they want to hear at their night is down to their personal taste.

So many DJ's moan about not getting sets but imo it's so simple. The way to get sets is to go to nights and give promoters demos. If you keep persisting with this you will eventually start to get sets.

If you haven't done this then I fail to see why you should feel hard done by.

I dont feel hard done by, i was just pointing out the fact that it would be easier to start your own night in order to get regular sets, than to turn up at other nights every time in the hope of getting a set once in a while (which due to promoters having to look after their mates & headliners its usually first set when nobody is in the club anyway) .It was my opinion as to why somebody might want to start a night in oxford when there already quite a few running.

[ponana]

i am booking Bukem and some other stuff in Feb. no confirmed date yet but i am looking at 2nd week of Feb. does this clash with anyone's nights? ( got bored of reading through everyone's bitching)

[Mantmast]

Many average djs get sets cos they hang out of promoters asses. Its that kind of scene unfortunately.

Edit: I dunno, it is also pretty disillusioning because of how locked the scene appears, which it does

I thought you were meant to be shutting up 2 pages ago?

[Rimardo]

lol

[bardist-ass]

Im starting up 3 nights in about march next year

2 of which will clash

[Gem04]

Who's Tony?!

Its just a saying, its on Max and Paddy. I didnt think Emersion was called Tony or anything if thats what u thought.. lol

[Misdemeanor]

Sorry mate, but how can you moan about not getting any sets in Oxford?

I hardly ever see you at any nights, why should people book you if you don't go to their nights?


Er.......shouldn't people be booked for their ability, not how many times you show up to a night.

Ridiculous.

[SugaCube]

Er.......shouldn't people be booked for their ability, not how many times you show up to a night.

Ridiculous.

totally agree

it shouldn't eb about how far up the promoter's ass you are whatsoever

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

I'm going to be running a daily dnb event next year

[Manikular]

any man and his dog can easily beat mix.

as stumaster put down already the only person in oxford is "more than able" to play is fu.

the rest of you are all much of a muchness imho.

[madz]

I thought you were meant to be shutting up 2 pages ago?

:zany:

I'm done now lol

[rogue]

any man and his dog can easily beat mix.
.

my dog is sick on the 1's and 2's no doubt

[Mantmast]

:zany:

I'm done now lol

;)

[KINETIC D&B]

Yeah but the only dj who's got ability that stands out is Fu and he gets more bookings than the rest of us put together and rightly so.

{disagree - this is wat makes oxford a bit boring - everyone wants to do the same thing - its all in the variety - i think everyone here would get bored listening to to any DJ, not just Fu or Fu clones fo 6 hours straight...}

Promoters are always gunna book people they like and people who add value to their night, you can say it should all be on ability but how can you actually judge a dj's ability because imo at least 80% of a dj's skill is tune selection and what tunes people like and what they want to hear at their night is down to their personal taste.

{sort of agree}

So many DJ's moan about not getting sets but imo it's so simple. The way to get sets is to go to nights and give promoters demos. If you keep persisting with this you will eventually start to get sets.

{agree - but not so much u become a pain in the arse - on this note i welcome all demos but promise nothing - think Fink got through 3 before he got a set.}

If you haven't done this then I fail to see why you should feel hard done by.

[GDStar]

any man and his dog can easily beat mix.

as stumaster put down already the only person in oxford is "more than able" to play is fu.

the rest of you are all much of a muchness imho.

And of course dj Lee and Total science

[rogue]

what does "more than able" mean anyway?

[DJ Chemical]

any man and his dog can easily beat mix.

as stumaster put down already the only person in oxford is "more than able" to play is fu.

the rest of you are all much of a muchness imho.



HOPE YOU FAIL YOUR DRIVING TEST YOU MUPPET!

[flawless DJ]

HOPE YOU FAIL YOUR DRIVING TEST YOU MUPPET!

agreed

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

the rest of you are all much of a muchness imho.

lmao

i like your style

[grande]

any man and his dog can easily beat mix.

as stumaster put down already the only person in oxford is "more than able" to play is fu.

the rest of you are all much of a muchness imho.

Can you hear the sound of ego's shattering all over Oxford?

[SugaCube]

the rest of you are all much of a muchness imho.

nice touch there

[Stumasta]

Can you hear the sound of ego's shattering all over Oxford?


Not at all, I think we all know that most dj's in Oxford are of a similar ability.

The only things that sets people apart is tune selection.

[rogue]

HOPE YOU FAIL YOUR DRIVING TEST YOU MUPPET!

yeah, some of us are 'more than able' to drive :fingah: lol

[DJ Chemical]

Can you hear the sound of ego's shattering all over Oxford?

mine certainly is :new_burn: :lookaroun :not_worth :flamed:

anyway, Grande fuck off back to Blunted :respekt:

[rogue]

be nice to Grande *

he's not very well :fryingpan
















* for a limited time only

[flawless DJ]

Not at all, I think we all know that most dj's in Oxford are of a similar ability.

The only things that sets people apart is tune selection.

thats compleate bullshit!

[Smokey]

thats compleate bullshit!

sure is

[BURLEY MC]

Tune selection is the main factor though. For me at least. There's only so much you can do with a set of decks and whatever that is it has been done to death by someone else.

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

so about dates for the oxford calander then? lol

[Ben E]

Yer i feel tune selection plays a big part these days, But it is a matter of opinion on what tunes people like at the end of the day!

Also about how a dj reads a crowd n thinks about what tune could go down next... stuff like that, imo makes a good dj but i guess that ties in with tune selection. I dont think JUST tune selection sets apart dj's tho.... You could have a dj that plays a sweet selection but has the shittest mixing ability.

[GDStar]

yeah exactly.... a good dj can do all that.

I dont think what Stumasta said was complete bullshit, maybe just reads a bit wrong...

I would agree that a lot of djs in oxford can mix well, ok, some better than others, and have a good selection for their individual styles. But, it's down to what style of music the promoters want, and if you can pull things out that are unexpected and work well for your style, thats gonna set you apart from the other dj's, if you're at a par on a mixing level. Remember, key clashes are as bad as clangs, or whatever the saying is lol

[grande]

You could have a dj that plays a sweet selection but has the shittest mixing ability.

Like me.

[Stumasta]

thats compleate bullshit!

:waaaaa:

[azonica]

lol, FTB at its best


Congrats to all

[ponana]

anyone know when Hit and Run are starting again next year?

[Mantmast]

Fu knows the exact date - sometime in February

[Emersion]

dark, thats tiiime away

i need my midweek wind down

[MIKEE HUSSLA]

Fu knows the exact date - sometime in February

February 14th - SIGMA BOOKED!!!!11111 :mullet:

[Mantmast]

And what a romantic evening it shall be..

[SugaCube]

And what a romantic evening it shall be..

so unfair :(

[djLax]

HQ Dates Jan / Feb :

Jan 19th

Feb 23rd

:respekt:

OX4 DATES

jan 13

feb 10

feb date to be confirmed tho